when i first heard about this disc i thought it was "just another new disc" that claims to be "the longest flying disc in the universes", as do so many new discs. so, i was a little reluctant to check out this new long bomber from innova. after reading a few other reviews about it, i finally decided to check this one out and i am glad i did. i now have 3 of them in my bag and with every shot they are my absolute longest flying disc in my bag and (or) possibly in the universe. i myself dont have the biggest arm, i would say that on average my drives are around the 350-375 ft range and have had a few lucky throws that get down into the 400 ft range, but this disc is now kicking that average up a notch and i have had more drives that are creeping up on that 400 ft mark then with anything i've thrown before. buy this disc right now and start killing it at the course!